Well done Spain. Of course I am happier because Torres and Mata both treated shamefully by Del Bosque scored having both been on probably no more than 10 minutes. Oh yeah Del Bosque will now be heralded as a genius instead of a plank but if they'd lost through their persistent passing it around he'd have been crucified. What use that great run in the first 10 minutes down the right to cross into the centre for no one because they are all in the midfield .. 4-3-3 my arse. England I feel have nothing to worry about Roy should now get the F.A. and the rest of these fools off his back and give the qualifiers a go including a new approach in regard to players. I like his initial selections but he failed to keep them when he left Oxlade Chamberlain out of the final game and kept Young, Walcott and Milner who really had a poor tournament. In fairness to Walcott he had one flash of Arsenal form but really looked out of his depth otherwise. Shame because I hoped he was our answer on that side. Technically I don't buy every pundits argument, our players are gifted but we are bit players in our own league preferring expensive imports to home grown talent. The reasoning for ever increasing coaches also doesn't wash I think we need just less pressure on our youngsters and more about having fun with the ball. Pele, Best, Maradonna and the like played all day everyday with tennis balls if they had too, it was practise and effort not coaching that got them recognised. The coaching comes when the skills are already in abundance. You can't coach talent but you can nurture it. I'd like one chance in charge of England, it'd never happen for many reasons but give me those players for 5 games and I bet me or any other football fan could do the job and equal our experts so far. We beat Spain recently and our next friendly is against Italy I bet we beat them too but funny when you have to work at a win we often lack the confidence or is it the freedom to express ourselves in a knockout game.  Finally many pundits talk about how great this Spanish team is and talk of the Mexico '70 Brazil side which was class. I'll say two things. One, England were without doubt the best side and should have easily won that World Cup bar a couple of tactical errors. Two Brazil played how they played under the rules that allowed serious contact and tackling the type of which Fabregas and his team mates would not be able to take, except maybe Torres, Mata and Puyol.